Comments on: Attention! http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/ paglia's thoughts: "one to negative one" and some noise in between Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Chris Saad http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Chris Saad Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:04:39 +0000 http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/#comment-16 <p>@Dirk.</p> <p>Video and Audio are valid forms of media consumption that require Attention management. While I agree with Lou that for busy people text is far more efficient than video (you can skim text quietly while you have to watch video presentations their pace).</p> <p>The neat thing about Particls is that we leverage a lot of existing technologies to bring the pieces together so we can (and already do) leverage a lot of existing video/audio transcription services and metadata to rank and discover audio/video content as well as text. Probably more so in the future.</p> <p>@Lou</p> <p>There is no way to change the time an item stays on the ticker (yet) as time is actually not the only factor that removes it. We use our Personal Relevancy algorithm to determine when an Item should appear on the ticker, and we also use it to work out when the item should be removed.</p> <p>That being said, however, items that are not clicked on do NOT count against your interest in them. Clicking on items counts your interest FOR them however.</p> <p>Not having time to click is perfectly ok by the way. The ticker is designed for just such a scenario. You are still seeing headlines without clicking - that's it's power. And if you ever find it distracting or if something very important happens, there are always the popup alerts.</p> @Dirk.

Video and Audio are valid forms of media consumption that require Attention management. While I agree with Lou that for busy people text is far more efficient than video (you can skim text quietly while you have to watch video presentations their pace).

The neat thing about Particls is that we leverage a lot of existing technologies to bring the pieces together so we can (and already do) leverage a lot of existing video/audio transcription services and metadata to rank and discover audio/video content as well as text. Probably more so in the future.

@Lou

There is no way to change the time an item stays on the ticker (yet) as time is actually not the only factor that removes it. We use our Personal Relevancy algorithm to determine when an Item should appear on the ticker, and we also use it to work out when the item should be removed.

That being said, however, items that are not clicked on do NOT count against your interest in them. Clicking on items counts your interest FOR them however.

Not having time to click is perfectly ok by the way. The ticker is designed for just such a scenario. You are still seeing headlines without clicking – that’s it’s power. And if you ever find it distracting or if something very important happens, there are always the popup alerts.

]]> By: Chris Saad http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/comment-page-1/#comment-708 Chris Saad Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:04:00 +0000 http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/#comment-708 @Dirk. Video and Audio are valid forms of media consumption that require Attention management. While I agree with Lou that for busy people text is far more efficient than video (you can skim text quietly while you have to watch video presentations their pace). The neat thing about Particls is that we leverage a lot of existing technologies to bring the pieces together so we can (and already do) leverage a lot of existing video/audio transcription services and metadata to rank and discover audio/video content as well as text. Probably more so in the future. @Lou There is no way to change the time an item stays on the ticker (yet) as time is actually not the only factor that removes it. We use our Personal Relevancy algorithm to determine when an Item should appear on the ticker, and we also use it to work out when the item should be removed. That being said, however, items that are not clicked on do NOT count against your interest in them. Clicking on items counts your interest FOR them however. Not having time to click is perfectly ok by the way. The ticker is designed for just such a scenario. You are still seeing headlines without clicking - that's it's power. And if you ever find it distracting or if something very important happens, there are always the popup alerts. @Dirk.
Video and Audio are valid forms of media consumption that require Attention management. While I agree with Lou that for busy people text is far more efficient than video (you can skim text quietly while you have to watch video presentations their pace).
The neat thing about Particls is that we leverage a lot of existing technologies to bring the pieces together so we can (and already do) leverage a lot of existing video/audio transcription services and metadata to rank and discover audio/video content as well as text. Probably more so in the future.
@Lou
There is no way to change the time an item stays on the ticker (yet) as time is actually not the only factor that removes it. We use our Personal Relevancy algorithm to determine when an Item should appear on the ticker, and we also use it to work out when the item should be removed.
That being said, however, items that are not clicked on do NOT count against your interest in them. Clicking on items counts your interest FOR them however.
Not having time to click is perfectly ok by the way. The ticker is designed for just such a scenario. You are still seeing headlines without clicking – that’s it’s power. And if you ever find it distracting or if something very important happens, there are always the popup alerts.

]]> By: Lou Paglia http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Lou Paglia Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:16:02 +0000 http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/#comment-15 <p>Chris, thanks for the follow-up. I look forward to seeing the progress that you and team make as you continue your roll-out and improvements.</p> <p>BTW, is there a way to increase the amount of time that my scroll keeps the headlines active. Often I am working and don't have time to pay attention and I worry that time scale causes the system to "think" that I'm not interested or "attentive" even though I simply didn't have time to click.</p> Chris, thanks for the follow-up. I look forward to seeing the progress that you and team make as you continue your roll-out and improvements.

BTW, is there a way to increase the amount of time that my scroll keeps the headlines active. Often I am working and don’t have time to pay attention and I worry that time scale causes the system to “think” that I’m not interested or “attentive” even though I simply didn’t have time to click.

]]> By: Lou Paglia http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/comment-page-1/#comment-707 Lou Paglia Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:16:00 +0000 http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/#comment-707 Chris, thanks for the follow-up. I look forward to seeing the progress that you and team make as you continue your roll-out and improvements. BTW, is there a way to increase the amount of time that my scroll keeps the headlines active. Often I am working and don't have time to pay attention and I worry that time scale causes the system to "think" that I'm not interested or "attentive" even though I simply didn't have time to click. Chris, thanks for the follow-up. I look forward to seeing the progress that you and team make as you continue your roll-out and improvements.
BTW, is there a way to increase the amount of time that my scroll keeps the headlines active. Often I am working and don’t have time to pay attention and I worry that time scale causes the system to “think” that I’m not interested or “attentive” even though I simply didn’t have time to click.

]]> By: Lou Paglia http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Lou Paglia Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:12:50 +0000 http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/#comment-14 <p>Dirk, I agree that video/audio is being a burgeoning meme on the web and it will present a challenge to both filtering and attention technologies. But I think we are still some time away from where people turn to video/audio as their predominant mode of consumption, even with the huge penetration of the ipod. These technologies, nonetheless, will have to adjust.</p> Dirk, I agree that video/audio is being a burgeoning meme on the web and it will present a challenge to both filtering and attention technologies. But I think we are still some time away from where people turn to video/audio as their predominant mode of consumption, even with the huge penetration of the ipod. These technologies, nonetheless, will have to adjust.

]]> By: Lou Paglia http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/comment-page-1/#comment-706 Lou Paglia Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:12:00 +0000 http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/#comment-706 Dirk, I agree that video/audio is being a burgeoning meme on the web and it will present a challenge to both filtering and attention technologies. But I think we are still some time away from where people turn to video/audio as their predominant mode of consumption, even with the huge penetration of the ipod. These technologies, nonetheless, will have to adjust. Dirk, I agree that video/audio is being a burgeoning meme on the web and it will present a challenge to both filtering and attention technologies. But I think we are still some time away from where people turn to video/audio as their predominant mode of consumption, even with the huge penetration of the ipod. These technologies, nonetheless, will have to adjust.

]]> By: Chris Saad http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Chris Saad Mon, 16 Apr 2007 02:31:10 +0000 http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/#comment-13 <p>Lou - thanks for the mention :)</p> <p>I agree that we will live and die by both the accuracy of the Personal Relevancy algorithm and the simplicity of the training.</p> <p>We are only about 50% of the way through that process for version 1 - And, of course, it will be a constantly evolving process. Chris Messina is in the workgroup and will surely be helping with that.</p> <p>You are right that APML would be part of the semantic web. We are also interested in combining it with Microformats so that it can be embedded into pages etc.</p> <p>Thanks!</p> Lou – thanks for the mention :)

I agree that we will live and die by both the accuracy of the Personal Relevancy algorithm and the simplicity of the training.

We are only about 50% of the way through that process for version 1 – And, of course, it will be a constantly evolving process. Chris Messina is in the workgroup and will surely be helping with that.

You are right that APML would be part of the semantic web. We are also interested in combining it with Microformats so that it can be embedded into pages etc.

Thanks!

]]> By: Chris Saad http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/comment-page-1/#comment-705 Chris Saad Mon, 16 Apr 2007 02:31:00 +0000 http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/#comment-705 Lou - thanks for the mention :) I agree that we will live and die by both the accuracy of the Personal Relevancy algorithm and the simplicity of the training. We are only about 50% of the way through that process for version 1 - And, of course, it will be a constantly evolving process. Chris Messina is in the workgroup and will surely be helping with that. You are right that APML would be part of the semantic web. We are also interested in combining it with Microformats so that it can be embedded into pages etc. Thanks! Lou – thanks for the mention :)
I agree that we will live and die by both the accuracy of the Personal Relevancy algorithm and the simplicity of the training.
We are only about 50% of the way through that process for version 1 – And, of course, it will be a constantly evolving process. Chris Messina is in the workgroup and will surely be helping with that.
You are right that APML would be part of the semantic web. We are also interested in combining it with Microformats so that it can be embedded into pages etc.
Thanks!

]]> By: Dirk Gently http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Dirk Gently Mon, 16 Apr 2007 02:24:41 +0000 http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/#comment-12 <p>To add to the confusion, and to give extra technical headaches for anyone trying to find a filter for them, many people don't read online anymore, they seek video or audio podcasts to explain it.</p> To add to the confusion, and to give extra technical headaches for anyone trying to find a filter for them, many people don’t read online anymore, they seek video or audio podcasts to explain it.

]]> By: Dirk Gently http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/comment-page-1/#comment-704 Dirk Gently Mon, 16 Apr 2007 02:24:00 +0000 http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/04/15/attention/#comment-704 To add to the confusion, and to give extra technical headaches for anyone trying to find a filter for them, many people don't read online anymore, they seek video or audio podcasts to explain it. To add to the confusion, and to give extra technical headaches for anyone trying to find a filter for them, many people don’t read online anymore, they seek video or audio podcasts to explain it.

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