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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But of course...the answers are in the questions!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Stephen Smoliar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Smoliar</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Over on &lt;a href=&quot;http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my own blog&lt;/a&gt; I indulge myself by taking samples of text and unpacking them to figure out whether they make any sense and whether the sense they make is the one the author actually intended.  Back in January I decided to do this for&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2007/01/another-big-lie-customer-relationship.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
CRM&lt;/a&gt;, my point being that, as far as the technology products were concerned, all three of the &quot;component nouns&quot;;—&quot;customer,&quot; &quot;relationship,&quot;; and &quot;management&quot;—had been (in bowdlerized form) fouled up beyond all recognition.  By the time I came to the final noun, I had built up enough evidence to argue &quot;that technology providers have no idea what they are managing or why they are managing it.&quot;  This is as true for knowledge management as it is for CRM.  The difference is that, now that knowledge management is on the down-side of the&lt;br /&gt;
Gartner hype curve, its failure to address the two questions Lou used to lead his post is now generally recognized!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To some extent is was a product of technology providers getting hung up on the &lt;i&gt;word&lt;/i&gt; knowledge when they should have been worrying about talking about it in productive ways.  Part (but hardly all) of the blame can be laid on Nonaka and Takeuchi, whose introductory chapter about &quot;knowledge&quot; is so shot through with holes that even a &quot;gentleman&#039;s C&quot; college freshman can find some of them!   However, a more important problem probably resided with all the different researchers who saw knowledge management as an opportunity to promote a personal agenda, whether it involved better data bases, communities of practice, Socratic dialogue, Marxist emancipation, or Heideggerian phenomenology.  At least, in the old joke, the elephant only had three blind men groping at it!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, if we carve off all of this fat, is there any meat left on the bone?&lt;br /&gt;
One important fact that may still need recognition is that, for all of their&lt;br /&gt;
promotion, Google and Wikipedia are not &quot;solutions to the knowledge problem&quot; and are as much part of the fat as the more elevated disciplines I cited in the preceding paragraph.  I tried to explore this observation back in February in my response to the announcement that the Middlebury College history department would not accept Wikipedia as an acceptable citation.  The title of that post&lt;br /&gt;
was &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2007/02/research-is-not-about-answers.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Research&lt;br /&gt;
is not about the answers!&lt;/a&gt;;&quot;  and neither is knowledge management.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let me try to reinforce this claim by going back to Lou&#039;s first question:  What are people trying to solve?  As I see it, every organization, whatever&lt;br /&gt;
its size, is a collection of people who know things.  If we then take, as a premise, that the &quot;business&quot; of the organization is to satisfy one or more&lt;br /&gt;
goals, then the most important problem in managing the organization is to&lt;br /&gt;
conduct day-to-day operations in such a way that the people who know things are contributing to satisfying the goals.  (I know that sounds simplistic, but that&#039;s what happens when you start carving off the fat!)   The very phrase &quot;knowledge management&quot; disclosed the problem that this was not happening:  The things that people were doing were not always leveraging what they knew;  and the organization was paying for it with unsatisfied or poorly satisfied goals.  Now I am too much of an anti-positivist to accept this as the whole story;  but at least it provides a framework in which the broader story can be told.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One part of that broader story that what is missing is that whole question of &quot;knowledge sharing,&quot; which became a focal point of knowledge management&lt;br /&gt;
technology and ultimately led many to ask whether or not Google (and/or&lt;br /&gt;
Wikipedia) was doing a better job.  This is where positivism loses its&lt;br /&gt;
punch, because sharing is something that takes place among human agents and therefore belong in the social world, rather than the objective world.  Personally, I subscribe to a motto coined by one of my former colleagues who now teaches philosophy at San Jose State:  Knowledge cannot be shared, but it can be &lt;i&gt;made sharable&lt;/i&gt;.  It is not a question of whether or not knowledge is being &quot;poured&quot; into repositories such as databases or even Web pages crawled by search engines.  It is a question of the social engagements that take place within the organization and the ways in which those engagement facilitate or impede the &quot;flow&quot; of knowledge.  In other words it is all about &quot;talk&quot; (which can take place through digital, as well as physical, channels);  and, if we read our Plato better than Nonaka and Takeuchi did, we discover very quickly that much of that talk is ultimately descriptive in nature.  It is through such descriptive talk that the scope of who knows what &quot;diffuses&quot; (a favorite word in knowledge management circles) through the&lt;br /&gt;
organization;  and often that descriptive talk is best reinforced in&lt;br /&gt;
contexts of &lt;i&gt;demonstrably effective actions&lt;/i&gt;.  In other words it&#039;s all&lt;br /&gt;
about &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; what you say &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; what you do!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At this point we can loop back to Lou&#039;s wrap up &quot;KM solutions must&quot; sentence, because I would argue that, once you couple people doing things that lead to satisfying goals with a social climate that encourages descriptive talk reinforced by demonstrably effective actions, you have a KM solution!  I apologize if this was a long trip;  but, to paraphrase the old saw, there&lt;br /&gt;
is no &quot;royal road&quot; to knowledge management.  Now it is someone else&#039;s turn to talk (hopefully descriptively)!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over on &lt;a href=&#8221;http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/&#8221; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;&gt;my own blog&lt;/a&gt; I indulge myself by taking samples of text and unpacking them to figure out whether they make any sense and whether the sense they make is the one the author actually intended.  Back in January I decided to do this for<br />
&lt;a href=&#8221;http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2007/01/another-big-lie-customer-relationship.html&#8221; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;&gt;<br />
CRM&lt;/a&gt;, my point being that, as far as the technology products were concerned, all three of the &#8220;component nouns&#8221;;—&#8221;customer,&#8221; &#8220;relationship,&#8221;; and &#8220;management&#8221;—had been (in bowdlerized form) fouled up beyond all recognition.  By the time I came to the final noun, I had built up enough evidence to argue &#8220;that technology providers have no idea what they are managing or why they are managing it.&#8221;  This is as true for knowledge management as it is for CRM.  The difference is that, now that knowledge management is on the down-side of the<br />
Gartner hype curve, its failure to address the two questions Lou used to lead his post is now generally recognized!</p>
<p>To some extent is was a product of technology providers getting hung up on the &lt;i&gt;word&lt;/i&gt; knowledge when they should have been worrying about talking about it in productive ways.  Part (but hardly all) of the blame can be laid on Nonaka and Takeuchi, whose introductory chapter about &#8220;knowledge&#8221; is so shot through with holes that even a &#8220;gentleman&#8217;s C&#8221; college freshman can find some of them!   However, a more important problem probably resided with all the different researchers who saw knowledge management as an opportunity to promote a personal agenda, whether it involved better data bases, communities of practice, Socratic dialogue, Marxist emancipation, or Heideggerian phenomenology.  At least, in the old joke, the elephant only had three blind men groping at it!</p>
<p>So, if we carve off all of this fat, is there any meat left on the bone?<br />
One important fact that may still need recognition is that, for all of their<br />
promotion, Google and Wikipedia are not &#8220;solutions to the knowledge problem&#8221; and are as much part of the fat as the more elevated disciplines I cited in the preceding paragraph.  I tried to explore this observation back in February in my response to the announcement that the Middlebury College history department would not accept Wikipedia as an acceptable citation.  The title of that post<br />
was &#8220;&lt;a href=&#8221;http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2007/02/research-is-not-about-answers.html&#8221; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;&gt;Research<br />
is not about the answers!&lt;/a&gt;;&#8221;  and neither is knowledge management.</p>
<p>Let me try to reinforce this claim by going back to Lou&#8217;s first question:  What are people trying to solve?  As I see it, every organization, whatever<br />
its size, is a collection of people who know things.  If we then take, as a premise, that the &#8220;business&#8221; of the organization is to satisfy one or more<br />
goals, then the most important problem in managing the organization is to<br />
conduct day-to-day operations in such a way that the people who know things are contributing to satisfying the goals.  (I know that sounds simplistic, but that&#8217;s what happens when you start carving off the fat!)   The very phrase &#8220;knowledge management&#8221; disclosed the problem that this was not happening:  The things that people were doing were not always leveraging what they knew;  and the organization was paying for it with unsatisfied or poorly satisfied goals.  Now I am too much of an anti-positivist to accept this as the whole story;  but at least it provides a framework in which the broader story can be told.</p>
<p>One part of that broader story that what is missing is that whole question of &#8220;knowledge sharing,&#8221; which became a focal point of knowledge management<br />
technology and ultimately led many to ask whether or not Google (and/or<br />
Wikipedia) was doing a better job.  This is where positivism loses its<br />
punch, because sharing is something that takes place among human agents and therefore belong in the social world, rather than the objective world.  Personally, I subscribe to a motto coined by one of my former colleagues who now teaches philosophy at San Jose State:  Knowledge cannot be shared, but it can be &lt;i&gt;made sharable&lt;/i&gt;.  It is not a question of whether or not knowledge is being &#8220;poured&#8221; into repositories such as databases or even Web pages crawled by search engines.  It is a question of the social engagements that take place within the organization and the ways in which those engagement facilitate or impede the &#8220;flow&#8221; of knowledge.  In other words it is all about &#8220;talk&#8221; (which can take place through digital, as well as physical, channels);  and, if we read our Plato better than Nonaka and Takeuchi did, we discover very quickly that much of that talk is ultimately descriptive in nature.  It is through such descriptive talk that the scope of who knows what &#8220;diffuses&#8221; (a favorite word in knowledge management circles) through the<br />
organization;  and often that descriptive talk is best reinforced in<br />
contexts of &lt;i&gt;demonstrably effective actions&lt;/i&gt;.  In other words it&#8217;s all<br />
about &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; what you say &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; what you do!</p>
<p>At this point we can loop back to Lou&#8217;s wrap up &#8220;KM solutions must&#8221; sentence, because I would argue that, once you couple people doing things that lead to satisfying goals with a social climate that encourages descriptive talk reinforced by demonstrably effective actions, you have a KM solution!  I apologize if this was a long trip;  but, to paraphrase the old saw, there<br />
is no &#8220;royal road&#8221; to knowledge management.  Now it is someone else&#8217;s turn to talk (hopefully descriptively)!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Smoliar</title>
		<link>http://www.loupaglia.com/correlate/2007/05/08/still-a-major-pain-pointknowledge-management/comment-page-1/#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Smoliar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 23:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over on &lt;a href=&quot;http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my own blog&lt;/a&gt; I indulge myself by taking samples of text and unpacking them to figure out whether they make any sense and whether the sense they make is the one the author actually intended.  Back in January I decided to do this for
&lt;a href=&quot;http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2007/01/another-big-lie-customer-relationship.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
CRM&lt;/a&gt;, my point being that, as far as the technology products were concerned, all three of the &quot;component nouns&quot;;—&quot;customer,&quot; &quot;relationship,&quot;; and &quot;management&quot;—had been (in bowdlerized form) fouled up beyond all recognition.  By the time I came to the final noun, I had built up enough evidence to argue &quot;that technology providers have no idea what they are managing or why they are managing it.&quot;  This is as true for knowledge management as it is for CRM.  The difference is that, now that knowledge management is on the down-side of the
Gartner hype curve, its failure to address the two questions Lou used to lead his post is now generally recognized!
To some extent is was a product of technology providers getting hung up on the &lt;i&gt;word&lt;/i&gt; knowledge when they should have been worrying about talking about it in productive ways.  Part (but hardly all) of the blame can be laid on Nonaka and Takeuchi, whose introductory chapter about &quot;knowledge&quot; is so shot through with holes that even a &quot;gentleman&#039;s C&quot; college freshman can find some of them!   However, a more important problem probably resided with all the different researchers who saw knowledge management as an opportunity to promote a personal agenda, whether it involved better data bases, communities of practice, Socratic dialogue, Marxist emancipation, or Heideggerian phenomenology.  At least, in the old joke, the elephant only had three blind men groping at it!
So, if we carve off all of this fat, is there any meat left on the bone?
One important fact that may still need recognition is that, for all of their
promotion, Google and Wikipedia are not &quot;solutions to the knowledge problem&quot; and are as much part of the fat as the more elevated disciplines I cited in the preceding paragraph.  I tried to explore this observation back in February in my response to the announcement that the Middlebury College history department would not accept Wikipedia as an acceptable citation.  The title of that post
was &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2007/02/research-is-not-about-answers.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Research
is not about the answers!&lt;/a&gt;;&quot;  and neither is knowledge management.
Let me try to reinforce this claim by going back to Lou&#039;s first question:  What are people trying to solve?  As I see it, every organization, whatever
its size, is a collection of people who know things.  If we then take, as a premise, that the &quot;business&quot; of the organization is to satisfy one or more
goals, then the most important problem in managing the organization is to
conduct day-to-day operations in such a way that the people who know things are contributing to satisfying the goals.  (I know that sounds simplistic, but that&#039;s what happens when you start carving off the fat!)   The very phrase &quot;knowledge management&quot; disclosed the problem that this was not happening:  The things that people were doing were not always leveraging what they knew;  and the organization was paying for it with unsatisfied or poorly satisfied goals.  Now I am too much of an anti-positivist to accept this as the whole story;  but at least it provides a framework in which the broader story can be told.
One part of that broader story that what is missing is that whole question of &quot;knowledge sharing,&quot; which became a focal point of knowledge management
technology and ultimately led many to ask whether or not Google (and/or
Wikipedia) was doing a better job.  This is where positivism loses its
punch, because sharing is something that takes place among human agents and therefore belong in the social world, rather than the objective world.  Personally, I subscribe to a motto coined by one of my former colleagues who now teaches philosophy at San Jose State:  Knowledge cannot be shared, but it can be &lt;i&gt;made sharable&lt;/i&gt;.  It is not a question of whether or not knowledge is being &quot;poured&quot; into repositories such as databases or even Web pages crawled by search engines.  It is a question of the social engagements that take place within the organization and the ways in which those engagement facilitate or impede the &quot;flow&quot; of knowledge.  In other words it is all about &quot;talk&quot; (which can take place through digital, as well as physical, channels);  and, if we read our Plato better than Nonaka and Takeuchi did, we discover very quickly that much of that talk is ultimately descriptive in nature.  It is through such descriptive talk that the scope of who knows what &quot;diffuses&quot; (a favorite word in knowledge management circles) through the
organization;  and often that descriptive talk is best reinforced in
contexts of &lt;i&gt;demonstrably effective actions&lt;/i&gt;.  In other words it&#039;s all
about &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; what you say &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; what you do!
At this point we can loop back to Lou&#039;s wrap up &quot;KM solutions must&quot; sentence, because I would argue that, once you couple people doing things that lead to satisfying goals with a social climate that encourages descriptive talk reinforced by demonstrably effective actions, you have a KM solution!  I apologize if this was a long trip;  but, to paraphrase the old saw, there
is no &quot;royal road&quot; to knowledge management.  Now it is someone else&#039;s turn to talk (hopefully descriptively)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over on &lt;a href=&#8221;http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/&#8221; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;&gt;my own blog&lt;/a&gt; I indulge myself by taking samples of text and unpacking them to figure out whether they make any sense and whether the sense they make is the one the author actually intended.  Back in January I decided to do this for<br />
&lt;a href=&#8221;http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2007/01/another-big-lie-customer-relationship.html&#8221; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;&gt;<br />
CRM&lt;/a&gt;, my point being that, as far as the technology products were concerned, all three of the &#8220;component nouns&#8221;;—&#8221;customer,&#8221; &#8220;relationship,&#8221;; and &#8220;management&#8221;—had been (in bowdlerized form) fouled up beyond all recognition.  By the time I came to the final noun, I had built up enough evidence to argue &#8220;that technology providers have no idea what they are managing or why they are managing it.&#8221;  This is as true for knowledge management as it is for CRM.  The difference is that, now that knowledge management is on the down-side of the<br />
Gartner hype curve, its failure to address the two questions Lou used to lead his post is now generally recognized!<br />
To some extent is was a product of technology providers getting hung up on the &lt;i&gt;word&lt;/i&gt; knowledge when they should have been worrying about talking about it in productive ways.  Part (but hardly all) of the blame can be laid on Nonaka and Takeuchi, whose introductory chapter about &#8220;knowledge&#8221; is so shot through with holes that even a &#8220;gentleman&#8217;s C&#8221; college freshman can find some of them!   However, a more important problem probably resided with all the different researchers who saw knowledge management as an opportunity to promote a personal agenda, whether it involved better data bases, communities of practice, Socratic dialogue, Marxist emancipation, or Heideggerian phenomenology.  At least, in the old joke, the elephant only had three blind men groping at it!<br />
So, if we carve off all of this fat, is there any meat left on the bone?<br />
One important fact that may still need recognition is that, for all of their<br />
promotion, Google and Wikipedia are not &#8220;solutions to the knowledge problem&#8221; and are as much part of the fat as the more elevated disciplines I cited in the preceding paragraph.  I tried to explore this observation back in February in my response to the announcement that the Middlebury College history department would not accept Wikipedia as an acceptable citation.  The title of that post<br />
was &#8220;&lt;a href=&#8221;http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2007/02/research-is-not-about-answers.html&#8221; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;&gt;Research<br />
is not about the answers!&lt;/a&gt;;&#8221;  and neither is knowledge management.<br />
Let me try to reinforce this claim by going back to Lou&#8217;s first question:  What are people trying to solve?  As I see it, every organization, whatever<br />
its size, is a collection of people who know things.  If we then take, as a premise, that the &#8220;business&#8221; of the organization is to satisfy one or more<br />
goals, then the most important problem in managing the organization is to<br />
conduct day-to-day operations in such a way that the people who know things are contributing to satisfying the goals.  (I know that sounds simplistic, but that&#8217;s what happens when you start carving off the fat!)   The very phrase &#8220;knowledge management&#8221; disclosed the problem that this was not happening:  The things that people were doing were not always leveraging what they knew;  and the organization was paying for it with unsatisfied or poorly satisfied goals.  Now I am too much of an anti-positivist to accept this as the whole story;  but at least it provides a framework in which the broader story can be told.<br />
One part of that broader story that what is missing is that whole question of &#8220;knowledge sharing,&#8221; which became a focal point of knowledge management<br />
technology and ultimately led many to ask whether or not Google (and/or<br />
Wikipedia) was doing a better job.  This is where positivism loses its<br />
punch, because sharing is something that takes place among human agents and therefore belong in the social world, rather than the objective world.  Personally, I subscribe to a motto coined by one of my former colleagues who now teaches philosophy at San Jose State:  Knowledge cannot be shared, but it can be &lt;i&gt;made sharable&lt;/i&gt;.  It is not a question of whether or not knowledge is being &#8220;poured&#8221; into repositories such as databases or even Web pages crawled by search engines.  It is a question of the social engagements that take place within the organization and the ways in which those engagement facilitate or impede the &#8220;flow&#8221; of knowledge.  In other words it is all about &#8220;talk&#8221; (which can take place through digital, as well as physical, channels);  and, if we read our Plato better than Nonaka and Takeuchi did, we discover very quickly that much of that talk is ultimately descriptive in nature.  It is through such descriptive talk that the scope of who knows what &#8220;diffuses&#8221; (a favorite word in knowledge management circles) through the<br />
organization;  and often that descriptive talk is best reinforced in<br />
contexts of &lt;i&gt;demonstrably effective actions&lt;/i&gt;.  In other words it&#8217;s all<br />
about &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; what you say &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; what you do!<br />
At this point we can loop back to Lou&#8217;s wrap up &#8220;KM solutions must&#8221; sentence, because I would argue that, once you couple people doing things that lead to satisfying goals with a social climate that encourages descriptive talk reinforced by demonstrably effective actions, you have a KM solution!  I apologize if this was a long trip;  but, to paraphrase the old saw, there<br />
is no &#8220;royal road&#8221; to knowledge management.  Now it is someone else&#8217;s turn to talk (hopefully descriptively)!</p>
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